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Motorcyclist Dies After Collision With Big Blue Bus In Pacific Palisades

Posted Nov. 20, 2012, 4:52 am

Brenton Garen / Editor-in-Chief

Updated Tuesday, Nov. 20 - 2:50 p.m.

An investigation is underway into how a motorcyclist was killed Tuesday morning in an accident involving a Big Blue Bus in the Pacific Palisades.

A Los Angeles Police Department spokeswoman told The Mirror a 911 call was received just after 10:30 a.m. and paramedics were sent to the 16900 block of West Sunset Boulevard.

The spokeswoman said the man was pinned beneath the bus and was pronounced dead at the scene.

Suja Lowenthal, Government and Community Relations Manager at Big Blue Bus, told The Mirror the bus had no passengers at the time of the incident as its driver was emerging from a layover position at Sunset and Marquez.

“Early indications from our understanding is that our driver made a legal left turn (from Marquez) onto Sunset Boulevard and the motorcyclist collided with the bus,” Lowenthal said. “That is unconfirmed based on any investigations or any information resulting from police investigations.”

She said the bus involved was number 3855 that was part of Route 9.

“This is a very tragic situation,” she said. “Until we know more, we are unable to comment further. We are very concerned that a life was lost.”

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Nov. 20, 2012, 9:41:50 am

so said...

Anything on streets with two wheels will get you killed. Motorcycles and cars don't mix.... (hello) Bicycles are straight suicide. This has been forgotten in Santa Monica, the City of should bear a great deal of the responsibly for all the cyclist that are going to die..... get paralyzed....... and if lucky recover from major trauma like our local Dentist has....(so sorry about that) If we are a bike city, create roads FOR BIKES ONLY.....why do people have to die over the next few years to prove this.....look at the numbers already.....why why why!

Nov. 20, 2012, 11:57:32 pm

John said...

I know this intersection well as a longtime Palisades resident. The buses DO NOT use the signaled left turn lane when making their transition from Marquez to Sunset. From their layover point, or even where they drop and pickup passengers, in order to use the left turn lane they would have to back up 100 feet to enter the proper turn lane and use (and wait for) the green signal. So they just make their ILLEGAL turn anytime they feel the coast is clear. Obviously this time it wasn't. I'm not a big fan of attorneys, but I hope this guy gets a good one.

Nov. 21, 2012, 12:35:01 am

Samodoc said...

I drive a scooter in that area, and I'd be curious to know if the motorcycle was on Sunset or crossing Sunset at the time of the crash? Or was the motorcycle to the side of the bus when the bus made its turn? John brought up a very good point about the bus possibly making an illegal turn, but as for the victim having a good lawyer, it won't matter, he's dead!

Nov. 21, 2012, 1:38:20 am

john said...

Attorney would be for the family and loved ones who needlessly lost a son, brother, or worse -- dad. My condolences, for sure. Main point is that the buses at this intersection for far too long it seems have had impunity from normal traffic laws and making their turns onto Sunset. Countless times I've had to make defensive and evasive driving maneuvers to avoid their lumbering turns from 0 MPH into 45MPH and faster traffic on Sunset. The fact is, THEY DO NOT USE THE SIGNALED TRAFFIC LANE, and they don't wait for CLEAR traffic. They simply wait for a break in traffic, and then make traffic accommodate them, i.e., drivers must adjust to the bus with breaking and slowing. Add to that a distracted, hurried, 'gotta-get-back-on-schedule-after-my-break' bus driver (and yes, maybe even a speeding bike) and you can predict that this was eventually bound to happen.

Nov. 21, 2012, 3:59:29 am

TK said...

The big blue bus drivers are generally big, fat jerks on the road. They drive too fast, come over into your lane whenever the want and make up their own traffic laws. I'm sure they are pressured to do this to keep on schedule and I'm sure it's stressful driving a rig like this in a city. That is not excuse though. Like it or not, bikes and motor bikes are here to stay and increasing in numbers. We all have to watch out for them a little better. That one moment of inattention could kill someone. I'm sure the bus driver is going to have nightmares for some time over this. My condolences to everyone involved.

Nov. 21, 2012, 6:18:18 am

john said...

Attorney would be for the family and loved ones who needlessly lost a son, brother, or worse -- dad. My condolences, for sure. Main point is that the buses at this intersection for far too long it seems have had impunity from normal traffic laws and making their turns onto Sunset. Countless times I've had to make defensive and evasive driving maneuvers to avoid their lumbering turns from 0 MPH into 45MPH and faster traffic on Sunset. The fact is, THEY DO NOT USE THE SIGNALED TRAFFIC LANE, and they don't wait for CLEAR traffic. They simply wait for a break in traffic, and then make traffic accommodate them, i.e., drivers must adjust to the bus with breaking and slowing. Add to that a distracted, hurried, 'gotta-get-back-on-schedule-after-my-break' bus driver (and yes, maybe even a speeding bike) and you can predict that this was eventually bound to happen.

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