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A rendering of the proposed Miramar expansion, which was the subject of a controversial float-up at Tuesday’s council meeting.
Courtesy City of Santa Monica
A rendering of the proposed Miramar expansion, which was the subject of a controversial float-up at Tuesday’s council meeting.

News, City Council, Development, Santa Monica, Miramar, Hotels

Miramar One Step Closer To Super Sizing

A rendering of the proposed Miramar expansion, which was the subject of a controversial float-up at Tuesday’s council meeting.
Courtesy City of Santa Monica
A rendering of the proposed Miramar expansion, which was the subject of a controversial float-up at Tuesday’s council meeting.

The Miramar

Posted Apr. 28, 2012, 2:25 am

Parimal M. Rohit / Staff Writer

If currently proposed plans to tear down and rebuild the Fairmont Miramar Hotel and Bungalows are allowed to move forward, then downtown Santa Monica will, depending on what side of the fence you sit on, either become a boon for coveted tourism dollars or renamed “Miami: West.” Santa Monica’s City Council expressed its view in a 6-1 vote, and members on the dais overwhelming believing the proposed Miramar “revitalization project” will indeed be that boon enhancing the city’s status as a leading tourist destination.

Evident at City Hall on Tuesday evening and into Wednesday morning was a clear line of demarcation separating the pro-development contingency who believe a newer, larger Miramar will result in millions of dollars filling Santa Monica’s coffers and an anti-Miramar campaign contending the hotel’s renovations plans are too bulky and would adversely affect the surrounding community.

Though the April 24 council action was far from a final decree, the 6-1 vote indicated that Santa Monica’s elected officials were in favor of the proposed project despite several people attending Tuesday’s meeting at City Hall protesting how large the new look Miramar would potentially be should the plans ultimately be approved.

One attendee who arrived mid-way through Closed Session conducted, based on a precursory scan of the blue or red stickers worn by almost every member of the capacity crowd inside Council Chambers, an unofficial count of those favoring (blue stickers) or opposing (a red “Stop” sign sticker) the Miramar expansion. By his observation, about 60 percent of those sitting inside the chambers opposed Miramar’s current plans.

A much larger crowd, the stance of each person not anecdotally accounted for in any capacity, observed the meeting from City Hall’s lobby and mezzanine.

Members in both camps hoped to make its respective case be known to council members even though the Miramar agenda item on Tuesday night was a “float-up,” where elected officials interact with staff, the developer, and members of the public to discuss how best move a project forward.

“Friends of the Miramar,” a group claiming to be more than 500 members strong, distributed blue stickers for its supporters to wear and, as a unit, made its case to council members that the hotel’s plans would greatly benefit Santa Monica.

Among its points in support of the Miramar’s increased size were: more than tens of millions of dollars in tax revenues; improved community via corporate responsibility; improved parking; consistency with the Land Use and Circulation Element (LUCE); inclusion of affordable housing; historic preservation of the Moreton Bay Fig Tree; inclusion of union jobs; the creation of 150 new jobs; and, being a pedestrian- and bicycle-friendly hotel.

Sea Colony resident Mike Gruning pointed out that the Miramar’s expansion plans provided both a community benefit via its affordable housing plan and would help revitalize the immediately surrounding area with the potential for ground-level businesses along Wilshire Boulevard and Second Street were positive community benefits.

“They’re going to revitalize the area by having retail on Wilshire and possibly Second Street, which will increase sales tax and bring tremendous revenues to the city,” Gruning told The Mirror. “Plus, it’s going to be all good-paying union jobs.”

Meanwhile, the Santa Monicans Against the Miramar Expansion Coalition, which distributed stickers replicating a “Stop” sign, argued the hotel’s expansion plans were bulky and violated several zoning ordinances.

Sohrab Sassounian, owner of The Huntley directly across from the Miramar, told The Mirror while he is not opposed to his neighbor’s renovations plans, the proposed expansion goes too far.

“It’s not a hotel project. It’s a condominium project,” he said. “The project is too bulky, too big, too tall.”

Another concern: residents just north of the Miramar believe a larger development will attract way too many automobiles to an area that is already congested.

“I’ve lived in Santa Monica for 31 years and I don’t want to see it change in the way this building project might make it change,” Eleanor Blumenberg, who lives near the Miramar, told The Mirror. “I live on top of the California Incline. I see it backed up now. It’s going to be absolutely ridiculous. Very unrealistic and selfish.”

Latham & Watkins attorney Rick Zbur observed the Miramar’s current plans exceed height and density restrictions.

“There’s a 45-foot height limit that they are not supposed to exceed,” Zbur said. “They are just wholly ignoring it.”

So, what is in a plan?

The developer has offered City Hall four alternatives after planning commissioners earlier this year expressed concern about the project’s size.

Interestingly enough, the project’s square footage remained the same in each alternative, with the way the space was allocated throughout the property being the only deviation.

The proposed square footage: 556,000. That space would include four buildings, 265 hotel rooms, 120 condominiums, just under 500 subterranean parking spaces, retail space along Wilshire Boulevard, and one-acre of open space. The current Ocean Tower, which is 10 stories tall, would be demolished; a new 12-story, 133-foot tall tower would be erected in its place.

Also proposed are structures of 70 and 122 feet, respectively.

Currently, the Miramar sits on 4.5 acres, is home to 296 guest rooms, and is just above 262,000 square feet in space. The tallest structure currently on-site is 10 stories tall. There are only 167 parking spaces on site.

Not happy with the lack of variation among the proposed alternatives, Council member Kevin McKeown was the sole opposing vote.

The other six council members expressed support of some of the projects proposed community benefits, such as local hiring and providing living wages to hotel employees.

In all, about 80 speakers addressed the dais in support or opposition of the Miramar project.

The meeting ended with expansion plans moving forward but with stipulations, such as: further refinements of design plans; reducing the size of one of the new towers by three stories while increasing the height of another; and, making a final determination on the number of condominiums to include in the new development.

MSD Capital, L.P., owns the Miramar, which is located on the corner of Wilshire and Ocean Boulevards.

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Apr. 28, 2012, 11:11:14 am

Sue McHugh said...

I am apalled that anyone is even considering a hotel expansion - I would like to know what the hotel occupancy is in Santa Monica currently - traffic here is already horrendous and unbearable during tourist season. Santa Monica is already one of the richest cities around and doesn't need a broader tax base - if the City Council approves this, we need a new City Council

Apr. 28, 2012, 1:06:59 pm

Garey Wittich said...

The SM City Council is trading "Quality of Life" for "Tax Dollars". No matter how much $$$ the City gets in tax revenue, it will NEVER be enough !!!! Just look at SM College, they have expanded beyond all practical means. The citizens of SM are supporting the college with their tax dollars and not many of the students are from SM. Why ?? Look at the traffic congestion caused by the college !! Pico and Pearl Streets are like parking lots. The "BIGGER" Miramar will do the same. The SM City Council is suppose to lookout for the benefit of it's citizens, not cater to the interests of BIG $$ and destroy our quality of life !!!!!!!!!!!!! Sometimes "smaller" is better than a new "bigger" and the Miramar is a perfect example of this. Garey Wittich (Resident of SM for 65+years)

Apr. 28, 2012, 9:29:40 pm

L. McCann said...

There will be nothing good that will come out of this in the end. Wilshire and Ocean Bl. is right now one of the most pleasant areas of the city of Santa Monica. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that when they say, “revitalization project” is the new "unrealistic and selfish."

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:26 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:26 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

Apr. 29, 2012, 8:35:21 am

Jay Garacochea said...

I am in favor of rebuilding the OLD Miramar.

Apr. 29, 2012, 2:53:34 pm

Bob Abernethy said...

LM McCann is incorrect in saying that no good will come of this project. If you are a shareholder in the fairmont Miramar, this will be very, very good. If you are a construction worker, this will be good. If you are one of the politically connected consultants hired to cram this bloated project down our throats, will be good. However, if you are an average citizen of Santa Monica; if you live in the area near the project, or even if you just like our skyline, then this project is one of the worst things that has ever happened. Where is the Coastal Commission when we need it?

Apr. 29, 2012, 7:27:35 pm

Jessamine Tepper said...

I read the 4/28 article called "Miramar One Step Closer to Super Sizing" and wonder why anyone would call the Miramar plan "very unrealistic and selfish." When I look at the new Miramar plans, I see a piece of property that will finally look like the rest of the city. The rest of the city has places to eat, places where visitors can stay, shops, gardens and walkways. The rest of the city has places where people work and earn a living. The rest of the city has housing. It's time to let the Miramar take down its walls and let these good things take root. The affordable housing part of the project is the most important piece to me. During these tough economic times, affordable housing has allowed me to remain a resident of Santa Monica and keep my children in the Santa Monica Malibu Unified School District. I am extremely grateful that in the City of Santa Monica, affordable housing is a priority. The City makes developers like the Miramar provide affordable housing when condos are built on a project. The developer will place the affordable units on its own property, and considering where that is, it will probably be beautiful. The people who will live there will be able to shop at the farmer's market, walk with their families out in the fresh air, and live close to the Blue Bus. It's really hard for me to see that as unrealistic and selfish. Also, I don't think the article was clear about the fact that this isn't just about pro-Miramar and anti-Miramar groups. There is a third party involved in the issue -- the City. The City Council voted 6-1 to let the developer work out a contract with the City's staff. I don't think that will exactly be a picnic. for the developer. Everything will be on the table. We should understand that the City will look after our interests, and that means all of us. Everyone should take a deep breath and have a constructive attitude about the Miramar plan, whether you're for it or against it.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:12 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:12 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:12 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:12 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:12 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:12 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:12 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:12 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:12 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:13 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:13 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:13 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:13 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:13 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:13 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:13 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:13 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:13 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:13 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:13 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:13 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:20 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:20 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:20 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:20 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:20 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:20 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:20 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:20 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:20 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:20 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:20 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:20 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:20 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:20 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:20 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:20 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:21 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:21 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:21 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:21 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:21 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:26 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:26 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:26 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:26 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:26 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:26 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:26 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:26 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:26 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:26 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:26 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:26 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:26 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:26 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:26 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:26 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:27 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 1, 2012, 11:21:27 am

Gail Zeanchock said...

How in the world can they even be considering a development like this? We can't park on our own streets as it is, where are the visitors to this going to park? On my block, that's where. Try going east out of Santa Monica after 4:30pm. It is stop and go! What will it be with this many more people coming and going?f This is the biggest mistake Santa Monica can make.

May. 2, 2012, 4:17:37 pm

Paul Anuraj said...

What's good for business is good for the city! Forget the living wage garbage and pay them a market wage! Efficient markets are fair.

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